Street of abandoned houses near Sydney's North west - Page 2
And I agree with Maggot...that people is why you have kids and treat them well, so when you go to that big drain the sky your personal belongings don't get left behind for some lifeless weirdo to go through them like a hungry possum searching for scraps.
I suspect my kids will sell all my stuff on Ebay when I cark it.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
Haha, getting comfortable on your high horse there I see. Pretty narrow minded view on exploring considering that you're a trespasser all the same.maggot wrote:Yeah, see what I mean about creepy and invasive.
You help yourself into someone's home when they're no longer around to tell you to piss off, and spend the afternoon reading their personal mail, going through their belongings and judging their lives.
That's really gross.
Don't talk down to me on what I do.
My job surrounds me in death and dieing people all day. Ever had to lay out a corpse of someone you knew, actively walking and talking around and engaging in conversations with them? These people have families that usually don't give a rats arse about, and the medical system certainly doesn't either other than using them as medication guinea pigs.. but they're human beings. If it weren't for explorers like me these people's stories, histories and lives would be forgotten in time forever.
I appreciate the fact that at least *one* of your lot has the decency to tell me what they think about me directly as opposed to the usual back stabbing, gossiping and Chinese whispers that goes on in this scene behind my back but haha whatever I always find out anyway. So I'm honored to read that you and all your friends think I'm creepy, invasive and gross
(this has to go)
Cheers Blakjak but I can't help but point out it seems some of these "lifeless weirdo's" in this whole exploring scene get their kicks from playing around in their s*** and piss underground tooblakjak wrote:Nice post Kto, in a weird macabre way (btw what's your Flickr account name?).
And I agree with Maggot...that people is why you have kids and treat them well, so when you go to that big drain the sky your personal belongings don't get left behind for some lifeless weirdo to go through them like a hungry possum searching for scraps.
I suspect my kids will sell all my stuff on Ebay when I cark it.
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Don't take things personal, I wasn't referring to you, or do you have a guilty conscience?Kto wrote:[Cheers Blakjak but I can't help but point out it seems some of these "lifeless weirdo's" in this whole exploring scene get their kicks from playing around in their s*** and piss underground too
Either way, there is a very distinct difference between private personal property and public infrastructure. The former we try to avoid, we have no more business going there than somebody would invading our homes to go through our cupboards. And as stated by somebody else above, it's a clear case of break-and-enter.
The latter are technically owned by us, the public, and even though nanny state laws prevent us from visiting them, our collective taxes paid for them and we could realistically make a strong moral case for being there.
And yes, I realize that most abandoned factories etc are private property, but they are at least owned by shareholders, not some poor punter like ourselves.
But hey, if exploring houses gives ya a boner, go ahead and explore 'em, more power to ya.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
That is a load of crap mateblakjak wrote:Don't take things personal, I wasn't referring to you
Apart from the idea that you and I are alive and still occupy where we live but these peoples are dead and no one occupies where they live(d).blakjak wrote:we have no more business going there than somebody would invading our homes to go through our cupboards. And as stated by somebody else above, it's a clear case of break-and-enter.
You sound like you're trying to justify the crime of break in and enter - its all the same s#@t to me.blakjak wrote:And yes, I realize that most abandoned factories etc are private property, but they are at least owned by shareholders, not some poor punter like ourselves.
Yeah a raging hard on mate. If you want me to confirm that I've got some nudes where my hand isn't covering my wangblakjak wrote:But hey, if exploring houses gives ya a boner, go ahead and explore 'em, more power to ya.
In a nutshell I can remember one case where residents reported buzzing noises and a smell, turned out an old lady had passed away in a chair. She had been there for approx 2 weeks, judged by the number of flies and maggots. According to people that lived nearby she had no family/relatives, and the council staff had to fumigate/clean the place and remove all personal property albeit bills, bank paperwork and letters etc.
By sifting through these last remaining pieces of this persons life they pieced together she had in fact got a daughter in South Africa who emigrated. She was previously married/divorced and either refused or couldn't afford sheltered housing/home and chose to live alone in old age. Although she had a moderate amount of money, she hadn't paid any bills and the gas was cut-off, she died of hypo-thermia, and her Daughter notified.
This documentary lasted 30mins and it was immensely informative on how they re-construct a life of someone through little evidence. It's truly saddening to think she died alone and the world outside was only aware by the aroma she gave off through natural decay.. very sad.
I find KTO's posts as informative as that documentary and he has recorded relics of past lives, that live a little more due to his UEGA posts.
I understand that some may find these disturbing/gross whatever you wish to describe it as, but if we were all the same wouldn't life be boring!!!
Just my 2c worth
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These stories are always sad. Natalie Wood was dead in her Sydney home for eight years before anyone found her, or realised she was even dead for that matter. Two people attended her funeral.Unclehaggz wrote:I watched a documentary years ago about people who had died alone in their units/houses etc, the authorities were drawn to these places due to smells, water running or whatever!. The local councils employed staff to go around and investigate, my god they are hard/tough people.
It is sad and bizarre how people and their lives can become forgotten so easily, and so much left behind as it was. To me, the idea of appreciating people who were often so overlooked in life is a nice gesture. It's not very traditional, but not done with ill intent.
Regardless, there's always going to be someone who has something s*** to say about whatever type of urbex you do.
There are definitely aspects of it that appeal to me more or less than others, but I can understand why people enjoy doing the things the do.
To each their own.
And Kto, you take urbex advise from your sister? Massive lol.
I wont go into the rest of that post as I'm laughing too hard, and as I said above, more power to ya.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
I'd sooner take my sisters word of advice over the majority of explorers I've come across and that is saying something because my sister is a total b#@ch but she weighs nothing on the kuntery and assholeism I've been exposed to since falling into this "hobby".blakjak wrote:And Kto, you take urbex advise from your sister? Massive lol.
Likewiseblakjak wrote:I wont go into the rest of that post as I'm laughing too hard, and as I said above, more power to ya.
I'm too hungover to keep coming back to this thread to uselessly argue things. BTW, is your sister hot?
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
blakjak wrote:You're a cunny funt, not too sure on your urbex priorities, but you'd be a treat at a party.
She's not into bestiality.blakjak wrote:BTW, is your sister hot?
I'm not that much of an animal, and I'm guessing that's a firm "no".Kto wrote:blakjak wrote:You're a cunny funt, not too sure on your urbex priorities, but you'd be a treat at a party.
She's not into bestiality.blakjak wrote:BTW, is your sister hot?
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
Where's the high horse? I'm just speaking up about something that doesn't sit right with me.Kto wrote:
Haha, getting comfortable on your high horse there I see. Pretty narrow minded view on exploring considering that you're a trespasser all the same.
Don't talk down to me on what I do.
It's pretty disrespectful. You found someone's love letter in their house and published it on the internet! That's a bit of a stomach turner right there. It's a pretty serious invasion of someone's privacy, made even worse by the fact that they're not around anymore and unable to do anything about it.
I'm not telling you what to do, I'm just letting you know that this disgusts me. I doubt my opinion is particularly unique.
Seriously though, this whole age of social media/over-sharing/narcissism is f*****g tiresome! Bring on the nuclear holocaust.
Cry me a river.maggot wrote:
Where's the high horse? I'm just speaking up about something that doesn't sit right with me.
It's pretty disrespectful. You found someone's love letter in their house and published it on the internet! That's a bit of a stomach turner right there. It's a pretty serious invasion of someone's privacy, made even worse by the fact that they're not around anymore and unable to do anything about it.
I'm not telling you what to do, I'm just letting you know that this disgusts me. I doubt my opinion is particularly unique.
Seriously though, this whole age of social media/over-sharing/narcissism is f*****g tiresome! Bring on the nuclear holocaust.
I'm sure you wouldn't have that attitude if it was your or your family member's privacy being pasted online. Then again, somebody who goes around taking nude pix of themselves in an abandoned house has far more serious issues to worry about than breaching some dead person's privacy haha.Kto wrote:Cry me a river.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
"...we create alternative pathways, little fragments of possibility."
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phytrix/
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Generally the people KTO posts about don't seem to have much family, if any.
That seems to be a pretty reoccurring reason houses come to be in this sort of state.
Someone dies, there's no family to sort through their home, or if there is they don't give a s***, etc.
Ugh this is still going. Whilst I've been out exploring places today I didn't think this thread was going to have any new posts but I can see you love a good argument so I shouldn't act so surprisedblakjak wrote:I'm sure you wouldn't have that attitude if it was your or your family member's privacy being pasted online. Then again, somebody who goes around taking nude pix of themselves in an abandoned house has far more serious issues to worry about than breaching some dead person's privacy haha.Kto wrote:Cry me a river.
I got heaps of photos of dead people's possessions like their underwear and toe nail clippers today, wanna see? 
In response: If someone slapped pictures of my family all over the internet after they went into their no-longer-occupied house, I'd stop in my tracks and think "s***, I should have locked that door" - - I don't have to physically break s#@t to access these places they're always left unlocked which just goes to prove how much whoever owns the place gives a damn.
Believe me I've got *plenty* more nudes to come and they're not going to go away
There are tons of reasons dead people's loved ones can't collect the dead person's possessions before they get trashed and photographed by deadbeats prying into other people's lives because they have none of their own.
Sometimes people don't have family, or they are overseas, or far away, like I said, there are plenty of reasons why that happens, but none justify deadbeats prying through personal stuff. And you are full of it, you are the type of person that would have done way more than just said "I should have locked that door" and you know it, so please keep your cowsh1t to yourself. Lying to win an argument is far worse than losing it you boofhead.
And like I said before, if you get your kicks from going through dead people's private lives, stick it. But don't try calling it urbex as it is nothing of the such.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.
I was beginning to think this was some kids instagram LOL
"No Urbex... No fun"
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Your entire statement appears as though you typed it up drunk - - since you've now mentioned it two times (first I was going to let it slide) you'll see in three of my nudes that they are taken in drains and one on a roof. None of my nudes are in abandoned houses you fool. If you're going to attempt to try and squash me with your over inflated egotistic wank-s#@t or some such horse hymen at least get your facts right.
I was waiting for that. That "noob" bullshit, your mob love using that term like its some kind superiority statement. Everything I have established has been at my own accord which is why I would never ever want to belong to some pre-existing "explorer group". Anyone who wants to join your lot just goes to prove they can't think for themselves.
Amusing you're actively going out of your way and asking around about me validating how much of your time this pathetic little argument on UEGA that you started means in your life. There isn't a single thing (most) explorer says to me that I trust or believe. Everyone has proven to me they are full of s#@t and lies.blakjak wrote:nobody knows you
I've made it abundantly clear that I see absolutely no wrong in photographing abandoned deceased estates, so why do you think that I'd actually care if someone did this to my family. This is commemoration of the dead. You can sit on your keyboard and have a sulky-sulk boo-hoo about me doing what I do all you like but I see no wrong in it and no matter what you say I will not change my point of view.blakjak wrote:Lying to win an argument is far worse than losing it you boofhead.
My point of view has had a lot of support across this thread, which goes to prove who is in the minority - but its no surprise you think your say is the end all be on what is and is not urbex. There is this forum called eur.ca (you might know it) where every second sorry sick twisted bastard is publicising abandoned houses, and people love it.blakjak wrote:don't try calling it urbex as it is nothing of the such.
I can see that you think I should step on egg shells and pussy foot around you but I genuinely couldn't give sloppy goat puss about what any f#@ker under sun and sky has to to say about me.
Kto, i know you got called boofhead, but calm your insults - you are pushing it a step too far..
I dont really sit on either side about what is or isnt urbex...
BUT.. my belief..
while it is interesting to analyse peoples lives, and understand the person behind the picture their posessions or premises forms,
I do believe that I would be significantly upset if it were my personal picture and background that was advertised for the world to see.
As would i be if someone accessed one of my relatives houses and published their life picture.
Sure, an abandoned house might be explored.. but there is a difference between publishing an unusual trinket and making no relation to the person that owned it - VS - publishing that "this was bob, he died of cancer, you should see his xrays.." or even just publishing details about the owner of a set of earrings.
In the same way that publishing a picture of a dead or dying person might be disrespectful, so too can be publishing the life story and posessions and relating them to that person.
If you get your voyeur kicks on outta investigating someones life through their remains , that is one thing.. but keeping it under your hat is the more respectful way of going about it.
If my grandmother keeled over today and i found that someone had rummaged through her stuff, whether it had sat there on private property for a day, month, or year.. I would be quite upset, and if i tracked down or caught that person out - they would soon wish that they were anyone else.
And the thought that you might believe you can sum up my grandmother in any respect based on the posessions and leftovers that you find - That i would take offense to also.
People hold on to "things", and let go of others. Often the things a person lets go of can describe them as much or more than those they retain.
Now... publishing of information - same principles of confidentiality that as today guides your personal details and medical records applies..
You can scream something about yourself as loud as you wish. You can get a skywriter to fill the skies with a statement about your personal health or issues.
But the minute you start publishing that private detail about that person beside you that you may have become privvy to - then you are doing something wrong.
You arent publishing stuff about yourself... you are publishing what could be my relative, or Blakjaks, or anyone elses.. with respect to that fact you need to consider how I, or blakjak, or whoever else might feel with regard to it, not your personal likelyhood of being offended..
Don't be a tease bro, post those photos. No homo.Kto wrote: Yeah a raging hard on mate. If you want me to confirm that I've got some nudes where my hand isn't covering my wang
Have to admit though, this thread is/was very 'eye opening'.
Blakjak of the Sydney branch of the Cave Clan.