Try and being a street artists! You think little bastards ruined it for you, how do you think people that actually do aerosol art feel? I grew up following rules/laws of the graffiti world, rules that little try hards dont understand or follow. I lived and breathed graffiti until they changed the laws and sentencing because of these little jerks and there horrible tags. Abandoned places are our playground just as they are yours. Everyone can get along if rules are in place. We use to keep our locations secret (shared between crew only - LGK represent ) just as urbex enthusiasts do. We also were worried about sites being locked down and smart enough to prevent that. A lot of the good stuff you would see out in the field is done by people that actually get paid to do it, and these places are their galleries for others to stumble across. The warehouse at Green Square for example (now demolished) had a "Linz" character that was printed on the ironlak (paint brand) signature range after I had already seen it in the warehouse. When we all first start, as with anything, practice is needed. One of the main place suitable for this is away from public view, hence all the graffiti it urbex locations. You never know, you may laugh at a crap tag now but in years to come be funding that same person by buying something from their clothing line. Look at Cope2 for example - he wasn't just born knowing can control, but now he makes a killing from his graffiti and clothing linesInvisibleElvis wrote:Vandals
Not only are we given a bad name for simply exploring but they destroy a beautiful abandonment for everyone else, abandonments should be "fixed in time" untouched and left as they were when they were abandoned, yesterday I went to an old high school and it was destroyed, shitty tags all over the place, I don't mind the actual art but drawing dicks all over a building is just f*****g stupid, the whole place was trashed and empty and it really ruins the urbex experience for everyone. I couldn't walk a meter without seeing a VB bottle.
Take only photos, leave only footprints.
I never liked beer, though I drink it because I like the idea of it.f1ex wrote:How good is VB though.
Are you calling certain graffers a "King"? Please explain. (this will be good)CafeCSK wrote:Kings didn't start out dropping burners...
Cafe can i ask a few questions, how old are you and what is the source of your info or how did you learn the "lingo" (burners, kings etc)?CafeCSK wrote:Sure I am, a writer who's constantly on top of their city (or several cities) with consistently good s*** is a king. Pretty much interchangeable with legend. Stay high was king, blade was king, dondi was king, seen was king.blakjak wrote:Are you calling certain graffers a "King"? Please explain. (this will be good)CafeCSK wrote:Kings didn't start out dropping burners...
Down in Melbourne you could argue who is and who isn't a king. Lush was (is?) considered king by come, same with sinch, nost could be considered a king of Melbourne right now.
Why would the concept of having kings within graff be controversial?
Slowly but surely it is being excepted as art. Which is good because it takes a lot of money (good paint is expensive) and time to learn/perfect just like any other art formUnclehaggz wrote:
Unlike mainstream artists there work goes unrecognised
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I know plenty of people in the graff scene and none of them have ever used the term 'king" to describe anybody. Funny stuff.CafeCSK wrote:Sure I am, a writer who's constantly on top of their city...
No offense, but it's childish. If any of my mates called me king for doing something like a nice drawing or graff they'd get funny looks at least. You'd have to do way more than throw up a nice piece to be considered a king in our circle.CafeCSK wrote:Why would the concept of having kings within graff be controversial?
BleH, most people with a brain grow out of graffiti when their balls drop. Some make money from it, others become very good signwriters etc, but most of them are just bored kids who like to show off, "ohh look at my graff ain't it so much better than the other stuff next to it??".CafeCSK wrote:For sure sofles would be argued to be a king, some people say yes, some people say no so it really depends who you ask. Sofles is crazy talented, that much is certain!
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blakjak wrote:It's natural for most abandons to get discovered by the locals before the urbex community. This includes bored kids, copper strippers, junkies, lame graffers, and people just generally stealing everything not bolted down and breaking everything in sight.
No topside abandos stay pristine for long. The trick is to get in there before too much damage has been done, it's not easy, but you have to keep your sensors piqued.
When we first explored Dunlop/Slazenger there were tennis and squash balls everywhere, tennis racquets and cricket bats (mostly damaged), machinery to make these, kilns, and tons of shoes (pairs). Now it's empty apart from the odd shoe. The shop side had the lab above with tons of scientific equipment like test-tubes and beakers, precision measuring and weighing machines, tons and tons of stuff. Gone now, all there is now is mould and trash.
As for high-schools, can you blame the kids for trashing them? I'd give 'em a medal.
Hence my questions Been writing for years, never heard it.. All city maybe (pretty obvious to work out - means your all over the city) but not kings. Burners are the people that do burner pieces (s*** hot pieces), combine them together = All city burner - but never heard kingblakjak wrote:I know plenty of people in the graff scene and none of them have ever used the term 'king" to describe anybody. Funny stuff.
I'm guessing you're under 18yo and from Melbourne?
No offense, but it's childish. If any of my mates called me king for doing something like a nice drawing or graff they'd get funny looks at least. You'd have to do way more than throw up a nice piece to be considered a king in our circle.
depends on whether you believe yahoo answers, which reckons it's more like 2900BClongnecksmasher wrote:Kings have been around since the 60's-80's.
Not in Sydney anymore, mayb one or two if you can find them. Most councils went around and tore them down, one actually got torn down in front of me while i was halfway thru paintingblakjak wrote: There are some legal walls, but none that are run by the govt.