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So, after intermittent horizontal lines in my photos over the past couple of months (temporary fix: tapping the lens :? ), my camera seems to have officially carked it.. I tried fixing it, and failed.

So no more urbex photos from me!

J.K. now that's just silly.

I'm thinking I might as well upgrade. Does anyone have experience with mirrorless cameras? Specifically the Canon EOS M. It's no D-SLR, but compact and huge upgrade from my G12, bless it's soul.
Anyway, I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions!
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Jeez I dunno mate - taking some nice pics of your explores might upset some people :lol:
Buying a new camera is a terrible idea!
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Dynamite wrote:Jeez I dunno mate - taking some nice pics of your explores might upset some people :lol:
Buying a new camera is a terrible idea!
My thoughts exactly ;)
It's only that I feel obligated to document and share :lol:
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The pricing for DSLRs have came down something shocking.... why not get something like a D5100 ?

However the mirrorless cameras are also pretty cool and i for one wouldnt mind getting one myself. Theyre smaller, look cooler, bit heavy but compactness overrides that ;)

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http://www.gizmag.com/mid-range-mirrorl ... 013/30052/

Once again though for same coin if not less you can get a nice DSLR these days ;)
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Our first guinea pig for a new camera :)

I wouldn't mind seeing how the eos-m performs in low light. As it's mirrorless, I'm guessing AF might be a bit slow in low light but then you can workaround that by shining a flashlight.

The Canon 6D looks promising and lighter than the 7D. Not as many AF points, but the low light focusing is apparently quite good and has a full frame sensor.
Just a harmless explorer. No need to waste taxes checking me ;)
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Titan wrote:http://www.gizmag.com/mid-range-mirrorl ... 013/30052/

Once again though for same coin if not less you can get a nice DSLR these days ;)
Interesting comparison. And more confusion.. I like the Fuji. Looks nice and seems to have more features than the EOS M, but the latter is under $400 with a lens. I agree that DSLR will have many benefits for similar money spent (found a D5100, 1 lens, on ebay for under $500), but the mirrorless ones are just so compact! Decisions decisions.
theedge wrote:Our first guinea pig for a new camera :)

I wouldn't mind seeing how the eos-m performs in low light. As it's mirrorless, I'm guessing AF might be a bit slow in low light but then you can workaround that by shining a flashlight.

The Canon 6D looks promising and lighter than the 7D. Not as many AF points, but the low light focusing is apparently quite good and has a full frame sensor.
Haha, long overdue. Apparently autofocus (speed) was terrible on EOS M at launch in regular light, but a firmware update fixed that. I don't think it uses 'phase detection' or whatever DSLRs use, but as long as it beats what I have now, I'll be happy.
No way I can justify the price of the 6D, as amazing as it looks :P
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The high-end compact cameras are better than lower-end DSLRs, like the Sony RX100 MkII, Canon G1X, Fuji X10. So much nicer to be able to fit something in your pocket. When I broke my last DSLR I went with a compact temporarily until I'd get a new one. That day still hasn't come.
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Scarecrow wrote:The high-end compact cameras are better than lower-end DSLRs, like the Sony RX100 MkII, Canon G1X, Fuji X10. So much nicer to be able to fit something in your pocket. When I broke my last DSLR I went with a compact temporarily until I'd get a new one. That day still hasn't come.
True. The G1X initially seemed the obvious choice coming from the G12. It would be a huge improvement, and no learning curve.
I really like the concept of mirrorless cameras. Plus with a 22mm 'pancake lens' the overall size is not much larger than one of the compacts. But of course then you have a fixed focal length unless you carry more lenses...
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Better hurry, otherwise you won't be able to document your crimes for all to see. *waves*
I put a "No Trespassing" sign on the fence. Now no one will enter.
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Draper wrote:Better hurry, otherwise you won't be able to document your crimes for all to see. *waves*
*waves* Because forest walks and guided tours are the very definition of crime.
Don't worry, I'll get one soon! Especially for you ;)
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Guided tours, who are you kidding? Strange looking forests on your website :roll:

Keep up the great work.
I put a "No Trespassing" sign on the fence. Now no one will enter.
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Draper wrote:Keep up the great work.
Thanks man. It means a lot coming from you. ;)
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much sarcasm, much love. you two are adorable ;)

get a canon "beginner" (you can still take the maddest high quality photos) dslr.
anything higher than say a 600D is going to be too precious to smash up in drains.
my opinion anyways, my poor 550D looks like it's been dropped from a skyscraper
but it still does the job. exploration cameras ftw.
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Keve wrote:much sarcasm, much love. you two are adorable ;)

get a canon "beginner" (you can still take the maddest high quality photos) dslr.
anything higher than say a 600D is going to be too precious to smash up in drains.
my opinion anyways, my poor 550D looks like it's been dropped from a skyscraper
but it still does the job. exploration cameras ftw.
Hehehe :)
But yeah, that's true. I'd be more upset about my G12 breaking if I hadn't bought it so cheaply. Whether it broke from draining and being knocked around, or was just an inevitably faulty unit, who knows :S But it's pretty old now, and served me well. For that I am happy. I think I'm just going to get the cheapest I can find, be it pro-compact, DSLR or mirrorless. Although I'm leaning towards the latter two mainly for the fact I can use a wide-angle lens.
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Well I splurged and bought a Canon EOS M kit for four fiddy on eBay. Comes with an 18-55mm lens and a 22mm 'pancake lens' as well as a speedlight flash because no flash built in (pfft who uses flash :S ). Pretty darn cheap if you ask me (please don't post here if you find it cheaper).
According to a guy in a shop today it's obsolete and terrible. Can't wait to try it out!
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I'm not surprised by his comments. The EOS-M hasn't been upgraded since 2012. As I also do the occasional wildlife photos on the side (but with so-so results), I've still stuck with a dslr for now and why I haven't changed. And I will divert my attention to say a bird of prey sitting on a fence while doing urbex.

Anyway I'm sure for general stuff the eos-m is sufficient.

It's also aps-c sized which has a crop factor of 1.6, so 18-55mm lens is 28-90mm full frame lens. Just need to be aware of that crop factor when getting a lens especially for wide angle shots.
Just a harmless explorer. No need to waste taxes checking me ;)
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Yeah exactly, but for what I intend to use it for it should be perfect. Physically it's not been upgraded, but the latest firmware as of 2013 improves the auto focus significantly. Again for drains this is no real benefit, but should I choose to photograph wildlife, which admittedly I like to do, it's not dslr speeds, but it should be comparable to my g12 (but better picture quality).

Ya, 35mm equivalent is something to consider, but still slightly less (more?), well closer to full frame than micro four third sensors that others use. I'm not sure the 35mm equiv my g12 is so can't relate in this regard.

Anyway I'm sure we'll see real world results soon enough :D
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Scarecrow wrote:The high-end compact cameras are better than lower-end DSLRs, like the Sony RX100 MkII, Canon G1X, Fuji X10. So much nicer to be able to fit something in your pocket. When I broke my last DSLR I went with a compact temporarily until I'd get a new one. That day still hasn't come.
All about the sensor size my friend ;)

If a compact has a 15mm sensor size while crappy DSLR has a 24mm ... i dont see how 15mm flashy looking camera can out-do quality wise what 24mm can... ;) ;) ;) jus sayn :P
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Titan wrote:
Scarecrow wrote:The high-end compact cameras are better than lower-end DSLRs, like the Sony RX100 MkII, Canon G1X, Fuji X10. So much nicer to be able to fit something in your pocket. When I broke my last DSLR I went with a compact temporarily until I'd get a new one. That day still hasn't come.
All about the sensor size my friend ;)

If a compact has a 15mm sensor size while crappy DSLR has a 24mm ... i dont see how 15mm flashy looking camera can out-do quality wise what 24mm can... ;) ;) ;) jus sayn :P
I would think that better optics/glass on a smaller sensor would outdo crud on a big sensor? I have a beaten and well travelled 600d, massive jump from the kit lenses to someting a wee bit better.
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Titan wrote:
Scarecrow wrote:The high-end compact cameras are better than lower-end DSLRs, like the Sony RX100 MkII, Canon G1X, Fuji X10. So much nicer to be able to fit something in your pocket. When I broke my last DSLR I went with a compact temporarily until I'd get a new one. That day still hasn't come.
All about the sensor size my friend ;)

If a compact has a 15mm sensor size while crappy DSLR has a 24mm ... i dont see how 15mm flashy looking camera can out-do quality wise what 24mm can... ;) ;) ;) jus sayn :P
I would think that better optics/glass on a smaller sensor would outdo crud on a big sensor? I have a beaten and well travelled 600d, massive jump from the kit lenses to someting a wee bit better.
However, change the lense on a DSLR and its magic... P&S .. well you get what you get :)
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