Too bad I wore gloves and a hairnet <.<Midget wrote:Phytrix, remember that camera I lent you? I got your fingerprints and DNA off that. *inducing paranoia*
Also, 1000th reply in this thread, woo!
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"...we create alternative pathways, little fragments of possibility."
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1000th reply, 101st page...phytrix wrote:Too bad I wore gloves and a hairnet <.<Midget wrote:Phytrix, remember that camera I lent you? I got your fingerprints and DNA off that. *inducing paranoia*
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"No Urbex... No fun"
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"...we create alternative pathways, little fragments of possibility."
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From http://www.activistrights.org.au/handbook/ch02s10.phpphytrix wrote:Out of curiosity, what kind of authority do security guards have? I imagine it varies by state and situation, but are they allowed to exert physical force, request full ID, etc?
Mainly related to Victoria but I imagine its very similar in each state.
Security guards have nothing more than the power of "citizen's arrest". This power is provided by section 462A of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic). Section 462A provides that “any person” who witnesses an offence occurring, or where there is immediate danger of a crime being committed, may use reasonable force to effect an arrest.
Security guards can legally arrest you. They must inform you of the reason for arrest, and then advise the police immediately. Be aware of the restrictions that apply to the use of force by security guards - if you feel that ‘unreasonable' force has been used you can allege assault or pursue civil action. What is ‘reasonable' force will be determined by common law.
Security guards are trained to use handcuffs as a last resort where the person resists lawful arrest and cannot be restrained by other lawful means. Because security guards do not have uninhibited authority to use these, there is always room to argue the legality of their use, as incorrect use can again result in criminal prosecution or civil action.
You should always keep in mind however that private security agents are often armed and always in uniform. They do not have the same training, or the same oversight and reporting mechanisms as police officers. BE CAREFUL when dealing with private security guards.
http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and- ... est#arrest
>The customer is under no obligation to give their name and address to you.
A̶s̶ ̶f̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶m̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶(̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶y̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶v̶a̶r̶i̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶e̶s̶'̶ ̶P̶o̶l̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶b̶s̶i̶t̶e̶s̶)̶,̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶i̶t̶i̶z̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶I̶D̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶o̶l̶i̶c̶e̶'̶s̶ ̶j̶o̶b̶.̶
Whaaattt. Can you get a refund?Rantallion wrote:...
Apparently I can, and if not I'm totes making a Paypal claim.Midget wrote:Whaaattt. Can you get a refund?Rantallion wrote:...
What's for dinner?
Christmas is too far. Maybe I'll see if I can tetris my mats into my boot neatly.Rantallion wrote:christmas presents for people you don't like?
So what is for dinner?
Interesting.....happen to know the power limits of a tram/train ticket inspector as well? I read a while ago they couldn't really restrain you if u decide to do a runner, and they're not allow to chase after you if you do run, is that still the status quo?Crispex wrote:From http://www.activistrights.org.au/handbook/ch02s10.phpphytrix wrote:Out of curiosity, what kind of authority do security guards have? I imagine it varies by state and situation, but are they allowed to exert physical force, request full ID, etc?
Mainly related to Victoria but I imagine its very similar in each state.
Security guards have nothing more than the power of "citizen's arrest". This power is provided by section 462A of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic). Section 462A provides that “any person” who witnesses an offence occurring, or where there is immediate danger of a crime being committed, may use reasonable force to effect an arrest.
Security guards can legally arrest you. They must inform you of the reason for arrest, and then advise the police immediately. Be aware of the restrictions that apply to the use of force by security guards - if you feel that ‘unreasonable' force has been used you can allege assault or pursue civil action. What is ‘reasonable' force will be determined by common law.
Security guards are trained to use handcuffs as a last resort where the person resists lawful arrest and cannot be restrained by other lawful means. Because security guards do not have uninhibited authority to use these, there is always room to argue the legality of their use, as incorrect use can again result in criminal prosecution or civil action.
You should always keep in mind however that private security agents are often armed and always in uniform. They do not have the same training, or the same oversight and reporting mechanisms as police officers. BE CAREFUL when dealing with private security guards.
http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and- ... est#arrest
>The customer is under no obligation to give their name and address to you.
A̶s̶ ̶f̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶m̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶(̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶y̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶v̶a̶r̶i̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶e̶s̶'̶ ̶P̶o̶l̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶b̶s̶i̶t̶e̶s̶)̶,̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶i̶t̶i̶z̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶I̶D̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶o̶l̶i̶c̶e̶'̶s̶ ̶j̶o̶b̶.̶
http://ptv.vic.gov.au/getting-around/au ... -officers/Fudoh wrote: Interesting.....happen to know the power limits of a tram/train ticket inspector as well? I read a while ago they couldn't really restrain you if u decide to do a runner, and they're not allow to chase after you if you do run, is that still the status quo?
If you cant/dont provide good ID they can arrest you and hand you over to the police but if you're on their bad side on record you can probably kiss any chance of leniency in the future goodbye.
There has been news inspectors have been given a notice not to give chase (what PSOs are for now really) but no sign of official guidelines stating such.
Tablet cam is so craptastic!
- Evacuate!
- Potatoe cam represent.Crispex wrote:image
Midget wrote:Potatoe cam represent.Crispex wrote:image
Working Sunday, double time woo!
I hear a wide angle lens calling my name...
Is that XP I see on the lil monitor??Crispex wrote:
Tablet cam is so craptastic!
Indeed it is. Old faithful.aydun wrote:Is that XP I see on the lil monitor??
Oldskool lol. Good luck trying to get on UEGA from thatCrispex wrote:Indeed it is. Old faithful.aydun wrote:Is that XP I see on the lil monitor??
Apparently. 
gotta love cops"...we create alternative pathways, little fragments of possibility."
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Dirty copper.
With the lights out, it's less dangerous
Aw what.phytrix wrote:Got myself a breaking and entering charge and my torches confiscated
You going to court? Yeah got a court hearing in 3 weeks, I reckon I'll be able to get away with a warning or something thoughMidget wrote:Aw what.phytrix wrote:Got myself a breaking and entering charge and my torches confiscated
"...we create alternative pathways, little fragments of possibility."
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